Divergent Book Discussion (6)

Friday, March 15, 2013

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We get the first few glimpses of what Dauntless is going to be like.  All the faction transfers must adapt to these changes in a rapid sequence.  They are required to not only jump on a moving train but jump off a ledge.  Some don't make it.  At the end, Beatrice decides to change her name to Tris.

Today's Topics:
Dauntless and Beatrice's Changes

Like I mentioned earlier, I love the fact that the Dauntless have to leap on and off the trains. Though I feel bad that one of the kids died jumping off, I’m sure lots of deaths happen in the Dauntless faction. Also, the other kids who transferred factions (like Beatrice) shouldn’t complain about jumping off the train and proving their bravery. I mean they chose the Dauntless faction, so they had to know that there was going to be dangerous stunts that they had to perform. I’m glad they stayed on the train; they don’t deserve to be called Dauntless initiates. I love how Beatrice was the only Abnegation transfer, and is the first to jump off the roof. She is such a great role model for all aspiring Dauntless members *tear*. Beatrice, or I should say Tris (which I think is a much more suitable name for her) isn’t so “Stiff” now (Stiff is a derogatory name for Abnegation members).

Beatrice choosing to change her name to Tris and becoming braver are definitely good signs for her becoming Dauntless. Though, I don’t know if Tris is making these changes for the sake of her letting her “Dauntless side” run wild, or her knowing that she has to change in order to survive Dauntless initiation. I think Tris can’t just be in one faction because she is Divergent (sorry, I mentioned the unmentionable name!). People like her deserve to be able to work on all of their major personality traits (so for Tris, this is bravery, selflessness, and knowledge). Actually, I don’t agree with the faction system at all. It’s stupid. I mean, why in the world would you make a *Socialist society, where people are factored into these separate personality traits? Especially separating the peaceful (Amity) and courageous (Dauntless), then the Amity have no army in case war comes, so they are doomed. The people in charge must be doing this as a plan to destroy something or keep all residents in check and restrained. Stupid government. If people want to rebel, they will find a way to rebel. Period.

Let's discuss the Dauntless.  We knew from chapter one that they were going to jump off trains but the most surprising was that even the faction transfers have to do it too on their first day.  Actually, it's no surprise, not anymore.  What did these people expect?  They need to stop complaining and try to jump on a moving train (if it was that easy).  I think I would become factionless in the first five seconds of choosing Dauntless because I am not that fast of a runner.  And some of the kids didn't make it.  One of them even died.  Since I have a huge problem with heights, I wouldn't be able to jump from a moving train to a roof.  It would not happen.  

I love how strong Beatrice has become.  This is the first time we get to see her accepting that she may be where she belongs with these people.  She has watched Dauntless outside of her school window, watching them jump off these trains, and I think she has dreamed from this moment.

Interruption in the topic's today because we just got introduced to FOUR!!!  I am screaming on the inside right now.  I am just so happy.  We get the first glimpse of him.  So Beatrice is the first one to jump and Four takes her hand... ahh!  Love!  Okay, obviously it didn't happen like that but we finally met Four.  I love his character.  Without giving too much away, I love that he was the one to help Beatrice down and congratulate her because I think that he understands her in that moment.

Lauren, the girl who points out that she is Abnegation in the end of the chapter, calls her a Stiff (and I hate that term).  I think the reason that Four gave her the choice to change her name was because, it is probably common for faction transfers to change their names, and he probably knows how it feels like to be identified by the faction you used to have.  I think Beatrice (now Tris) will struggle with this identity thing the entire book.  People will still see her as Abnegation and she will start seeing herself as Dauntless.  But she is Divergent.

How would you fare as Dauntless?  (Would you be able to jump off trains and leap off ledges?)

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